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What is the difference between the terms "samsara" and "dukkha"?

What is the relationship between the two?

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    Dukkha means that your life sucks. Samsara means, so will your next one, (and your next one, and your ... repeat until enlightened) :-)
    – tkp
    Commented Sep 30, 2015 at 16:40
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    Saṃsāra is the house that Avijja (ignorance) built. It rests on three pillars anicca, anatta and dukkha, also known as the three marks of existence.
    – Buddho
    Commented Oct 1, 2015 at 15:28

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Samsara is a continuum of our individual mind moments.

Dukkha is the deep down feeling that something is missing or wrong that occurs throughout Samsara.

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In my own words:

Samsara is the same world you see on TV and read about in newspapers. This world is a hallucination (a subjective reality) fabricated in dependence on the fundamental confusion caused by the fundamental ignorance. This confusion causes dukkha and dukkha causes further confusion, which is why Samsara is dubbed "cyclic existence" - but also because the confusion is passed on from previous lives to future lives.

Dukkha is the painful and bitter feeling of wrongness you experience while in Samsara, because of the mismatch between the hallucination and reality.

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  • Sorry to complain but are you saying that, "Buddhism says that the world is an illusion or a hallucination"? If so I've 'always' thought that's a too-simplistic (not helpful or prescriptive) description. Also if I don't watch TV it isn't clear what else (apart from the world on TV) samsara is or isn't.
    – ChrisW
    Commented Sep 30, 2015 at 18:28
  • not literally, no. Though "hallucination" is the exact word my Zen Master used -- and I used to hate it myself... but the more I share what I was taught the more I appreciate the brightly metaphorical pointers over the tedious conceptual expositions. I did mention "subjective reality" parenthetically to add a little more depth to the metaphor, it is pretty subtle one.
    – Andriy Volkov
    Commented Sep 30, 2015 at 19:47
  • To try to help clarify, perhaps, my Eastern Philosophies professor told us that the Hindu concept of Samara is based on delusion, where the individual misperceives the external reality. The example Hindu theologians use is a coiled rope that appears to be a snake in the dark --it's a misperception. Whereas the Buddhist idea of Samsara is based on illusion, where an individual projects qualities originating in their own mind (ideas of good and bad, permanence, etc) onto the external world.
    – user151841
    Commented Sep 30, 2015 at 20:12
  • @user151841 - yes, this is pretty close
    – Andriy Volkov
    Commented Sep 30, 2015 at 20:17
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Saṃsāra is endless cyclic existence (Anamataggo bhikkawe samsaro pubbha kota na pannayati) caused by Avijja and Tanha (Avijja neevarananang thanha sanyojanag). Note that Avijja means ignorance about four noble truths including Dukkha.
Avijja Sutta -SN 45

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Dukkha not only means suffering but means breakable, changing, fragile, breaking, falling apart, changes, stressful etc.. it is clearer with buddha quote "all Vedana [feelings; pleasurable, suffering, or equanimity] end with Dukkha. So dukkha is a property of those who are traveling in Samsara

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Others have nicely explained the different meanings of the two terms. As for their relationship, I'd actually say that samsara and dukkha are the same thing from different perspectives -- samsara from a cosmological standpoint, dukkha from an individual (psychological) standpoint.

To be in samsara is to experience pervasive, self-reinforcing (cyclic) dukkha due to ignorance. To be in ignorance is to suffer and hence to be in samsara. So samsara => dukkha and dukkha => samsara, hence samsara <=> dukkha.

This is an elementary example of how cosmology and psychology (phenomenology, experience) mirror each other. Rupert Gethin treats this at some length in a great series of papers, though with more intricate concepts. Here it is summarized in the Wikipedia article on samsara. You can look up his papers on the subject, and he also treats it in chapter 5 of his text, The Foundations of Buddhism.

You could also add avidya (ignorance) as a third element of the equivalence, perhaps from the philosophical or conceptual perspective.

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They are conjoined in the dispensation:

what is samsara is dukkha, cessation of dukkha is cessation of samara and dukkha is a characteristic of samsara.

analogy:

What is water is liquid, cessation of liquid is cessation of water and liquid is a characteristic of water.

It would not be appropriate to use them as synonyms always as they are different abstractions.

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