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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" can beis synonymous forwith "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" can be synonymous for "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" is synonymous with "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" iscan be synonymous withfor "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" is synonymous with "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" can be synonymous for "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

ToIt seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" seems to beis synonymous with "pleasure""joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

This is a follow-on to this question

What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

To me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" seems to be synonymous with "pleasure" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

This is a follow-on to this question

What's the connection or difference between joy (piti), and the "bliss" (sukha) and peace (santi) of Nibbana?

Is one required to seek joy to attain Nibbana? Why? Should one seek sukha, peace, or Nibbana (to attain Nibbana)? If Nibbana and joy are different then why is (or what's meant by saying that) joy is one of the path factors?

It seems to me the meaning of the English words "bliss" or "happiness" is synonymous with "joy" so why does it seem like Nibbana has been described as "bliss" or "happiness"?

In my opinion if there is no element of "joy", "pleasure", "delight" etc. to the attainment of Nibbana then it is wrong to refer to it as "happiness" or "bliss".

I don't understand how it could be possible for there to be an unconditioned happiness or bliss.

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