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| Jun 30, 2015 at 8:08 | comment | added | user5380 | Yes you are correct that we try to end suffering altogether, but we try to become Arahants in this life, or we at least try to become Sotapannas so we will live no more than seven lives until we attain Arahantship. That is what I meant when I said, "the aims of us is to end suffering in this life or future ones." @Ryan | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 8:04 | comment | added | user5380 | Even though they have wrong view, they still may very well be both Christian and Buddhist, but in the end they will drop Christian beliefs because they've gotten rid of wrong view. I have said that in NT earlier comment in this phrasing: "…They will however drop some of their Christian beliefs because of their meditation." | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 8:02 | comment | added | Ryan | The aim of the Noble Eightfold Path is the cessation of suffering. Not in this life, or the next, but in totality. And suffering is suffering. There isn't Buddhist suffering and Christian suffering. Only suffering. | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 8:01 | comment | added | user5380 | I see your point in your first comment. @Ryan however the aims of us is to end suffering in this life or future ones. In Christianity it is to end suffering in a place that is eternal. So they are different types of ending suffering addressed. So one can still follow both, unless one is a Christian who believes in one life. | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 7:56 | comment | added | Ryan | Also, from the list of 62 wrong views, there are at least some which cannot be reconciled with a Christian world view: 5. The one who recalls a past existence in a heavenly plane where he was subject to a more powerful deva and thus, thinks in this life that the more powerful deva is an eternal, all- powerful God. Such a person proclaims that deva to be the one-all-powerful God, creating or following a mono-theist religion, which is essentially wrong view. #5 to say the least, in addition to the numerous views of the self after death | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 7:50 | comment | added | Ryan | In Christianity, heaven is more or less synonymous with the cessation of suffering. Christians want to go to heaven, because the alternative is an eternity of damnation and suffering. In this way, as the alternative to heaven is hell, the acceptance of Jesus Christ IS the Christians cessation of suffering. | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 6:52 | comment | added | user5380 | They accept Jesus Christ as a saviour because they want to go to heaven, not because they want to end suffering. So your second comment needs no further refutation. @Ryan | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 6:49 | comment | added | user5380 | @Ryan let me explain what I mean. A Christian could still follow the Noble Eightfold Path. They can still develop Right View. Right View is the opposite of Wrong View. The Buddha taught that there are 62 types of wrong view dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=62_kinds_of_wrong_view Just as long as a Christian does not believe in those kinds of wrong view, sees the truth of suffering, and path to ending suffering, then they have right view. They will; however, drop some of their Christian beliefs because of their meditation insight. | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 6:38 | comment | added | Ryan | Christianity holds that eternal salvation is achieved only through Jesus Christ being accepted into ones heart as a personal savior. Whereas right view in the Noble Eightfold Path holds the Four Noble Truths, which clearly state the path to the cessation of suffering to be other than Jesus Christ. Therefore, I cannot see how the two views can both be held. | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 6:34 | comment | added | Ryan | I would argue Christianity takes not a little faith, but is predicated upon faith, without reality as its basis. Buddhism takes reality and experience as its basis, and takes faith not as a necessity, but as a supporting condition that arises when the teaching becomes realized for oneself. And I also would not agree and cannot see how a Christian could follow the Noble Eightfold path. How would they be able to attain right view while trying to reconcile reality with the Bible? | |
| Jun 30, 2015 at 5:49 | history | answered | user5380 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |