Timeline for Relying upon a Spiritual Guide, who created this idea? Is it actually a necessity for liberation?
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| Sep 26, 2021 at 17:01 | comment | added | user21874 | I still stand by that. If all you do is memorize and study the suttas on your own, you are in danger of misinterpreting them. I would also add that they are highly technical in places and often gloss over important subtleties. As in the question I mentioned, the suttas don't have anything to say, for example, to a student who is struggling between access concentration and jhana. They simply provide a stock description. It's not that what they say is wrong, it's just that what they say isnt always the most helpful. | |
| Sep 26, 2021 at 13:27 | comment | added | user8527 | @user21874 forgot to tag | |
| Sep 26, 2021 at 13:21 | comment | added | user8527 | If it aligns with teacher's instruction then it is good and it is then not a 'peg' making me wrong in equating what you called the maturing pedagogy with the example in the sn20. In general sects that do not emphasise the sutta memorizing don't do it for a not noble reason and therefore i was compelled to take a stab at this answer. I still don't think you should say "you are going to get lost if you follow those directions alone" because who are you to make such evaluations when the teacher said that is exactly what one ought to memorize & master. | |
| Sep 26, 2021 at 11:33 | comment | added | user21874 | The suttas and additional literature aren't mutually exclusive. I practice Rinzai Zen and still read the Pali canon and can even read quite a bit of Pali. That said, I'm frankly grateful for the additional detail that's been added over the centuries. It's helped my practice immensely. | |
| Sep 26, 2021 at 7:14 | comment | added | user8527 | I think this sutta explains such pedagogy maturation accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn20/sn20.007.than.html | |
| Sep 25, 2021 at 21:32 | history | edited | user21874 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 25, 2021 at 21:25 | comment | added | user21874 | It's not that they have no validity, it just that over time the pedagogy of conveying them has matured. | |
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| Sep 25, 2021 at 19:13 | comment | added | Remyla | But who stated this? From what you said this is your opinion, using a useless analogy of directing instructions of travelling. The Abhidhamma is the commentary to the practices, the teacher himself would have learned from such teachings and what you state is as if the suttas and by default Buddhas instructions have no validity, and/or are unable to be understood! Which would just make them useless nonsense, which they are not! | |
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| S Sep 25, 2021 at 18:37 | history | answered | user21874 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |