Timeline for What do you wish you knew when you started down the path of buddhism?
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| Jul 8, 2020 at 15:02 | comment | added | Konchog | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 15:01 | comment | added | ruben2020♦ | @Konchog Yes. I'm aware of this. I analyzed this in this question. | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 14:59 | comment | added | Konchog | @ruben2020, maybe you should talk to Ven. Prof. M. Dhammajothi Thero. According to him, and many others - including myself, Madhyamika suññatā and the anattā of the EBT are not different in any way whatsoever. Ven. Thero finds plenty of evidence to show that the identity of paṭiccasamuppāda with anattā is not novel to Nāgārjuna, Nalanda or the Himalayan Buddhist Traditions (HT). If you look at my answer above, you can see that this is the case. The fourth noble truth - the tisikkhā - is all about cutting the ignorance that gives rise to taṇhā. | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 14:47 | comment | added | ruben2020♦ | @Konchog Oh really? I thought the emphasis of Tibetan Buddhism (HT?) is on Madhyamika shunyata rather than anatta (which is the Theravada shunyata). | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 14:32 | comment | added | Konchog | @ruben2020, there are various reasons for the emphasis: For instance, many non-Buddhist samaṇa traditions accept both dukkha and anicca - but only Buddhists assert anattā. It is said that, in the end, it is the recognition of anattā that actually cuts the root to samsara; that the recognition of dukkha/anicca follow from anattā but anattā does not follow from dukkha/anicca. If you see my answer above, you will see that the HT does not differ from the EBT regarding the strong relationship between anattā and karma. | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 14:13 | comment | added | Konchog | @ruben2020, I understand that you don't understand - and I would like to go through it with you but it is recommended not to use comments for a discussion. But in brief, paragraphs 7,8 and 9 only indicate your own misunderstanding of the Himalayan traditions. The differences between Buddhist mantra practice and the EBT are almost entirely on emphasis. For instance, with the tisikkhā the emphasis in the HT is placed on anattā rather than all the tilakkhaṇa when practicing adhipaññā-sikkhā. (Of course the tilakkhaṇa are accepted - but within adhipaññā-sikkhā the emphasis is anattā). | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 9:58 | comment | added | ruben2020♦ | @Konchog I don't understand you. I'm not against any Buddhist tradition. I'm only commenting against superstitious practices which has crept into all Buddhist traditions, the likes of which was criticized by Gautama Buddha himself 2500 years ago. These practices were probably imported from religious traditions outside of Buddhism. I have a deep respect for Tibetan Buddhism and have nothing against it. Some aspects of Tibetan Buddhism like Dzogchen are very advanced. In a way, this topic is personally related to me too, as my previous religious background was troubled with superstitions too. | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 9:30 | comment | added | Konchog | -1 because you are talking about what you are not. Do you not think it would be more helpful to talk from a position of what is shared, rather than your personal notions of what is different? In general, we should be talking in the language of the audience - finding a way of helping them in the path that they choose: To make a judgement against their path implies that you have access to greater insight which, frankly, is arrogant. Even Gautama Buddha used the language, thoughts, and ideas of his audience. | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 10:43 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | -1 because this seems to be an answer about what you wish they knew. :-) | |
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| Jul 7, 2020 at 2:55 | history | answered | ruben2020♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |