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Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to her holding on to her child is (self) identification, and such is not bad per se, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Believing that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression".

"There is no Self" is no realisation of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, still present, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realised the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained release, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and second, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

 

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

 

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

 

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from association with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even worldlings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe from low states of existence, which includes also things like strong depression and other animal-like (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be available and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to her holding on to her child is (self) identification, and such is not bad per se, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Believing that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression".

"There is no Self" is no realisation of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, still present, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realised the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained release, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and second, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

 

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

 

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

 

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from association with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even worldlings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe from low states of existence, which includes also things like strong depression and other animal-like (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be available and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to her holding on to her child is (self) identification, and such is not bad per se, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Believing that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression".

"There is no Self" is no realisation of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, still present, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realised the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained release, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and second, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from association with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even worldlings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe from low states of existence, which includes also things like strong depression and other animal-like (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be available and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

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Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation. Beware of certain Elements who are everywhere active using the tripple gems as their disguise. Having really seen Dhamma, you would avoid their calls like fire.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to her holding on theto her child is (self) identification, and such is not bad perseper se, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

BelivingBelieving that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression". There are a lot who on account on overestimation do nothing but accumulate more demerits and harm for other beings, with their often popular teachings.

"There is no Self" is no realizationrealisation of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, sitill precentstill present, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realizedrealised the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained realeaserelease, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and secoundsecond, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from assosiationassociation with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even wordilingsworldlings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe offrom low states of existence, suchwhich includes also things like strong depression and other animalishanimal-like (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be avaliableavailable and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation. Beware of certain Elements who are everywhere active using the tripple gems as their disguise. Having really seen Dhamma, you would avoid their calls like fire.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to holding on the child is (self) identification, and such is not bad perse, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Beliving that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression". There are a lot who on account on overestimation do nothing but accumulate more demerits and harm for other beings, with their often popular teachings.

"There is no Self" is no realization of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, sitill precent, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realized the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained realease, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and secound, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from assosiation with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even wordilings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe of low states of existence, such includes also things like strong depression and other animalish (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be avaliable and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to her holding on to her child is (self) identification, and such is not bad per se, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Believing that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression".

"There is no Self" is no realisation of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, still present, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realised the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained release, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and second, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from association with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even worldlings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe from low states of existence, which includes also things like strong depression and other animal-like (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be available and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

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Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation. Beware of certain Elements who are everywhere active using the tripple gems as their disguise. Having really seen Dhamma, you would avoid their calls like fire.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to holding on the child is (self) identification, and such is not bad perse, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Beliving that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression". There are a lot who on account on overestimation do nothing but accumulate more demerits and harm for other beings, with their often popular teachings.

"There is no Self" is no realization of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, sitill precent, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realized the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained realease, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and secound, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from assosiation with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even wordilings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe of low states of existence, such includes also things like strong depression and other animalish (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be avaliable and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation. Beware of certain Elements who are everywhere active using the tripple gems as their disguise. Having really seen Dhamma, you would avoid their calls like fire.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Beliving that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression". There are a lot who on account on overestimation do nothing but accumulate more demerits and harm for other beings, with their often popular teachings.

"There is no Self" is no realization of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, sitill precent, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realized the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained realease, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and secound, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from assosiation with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even wordilings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe of low states of existence, such includes also things like strong depression and other animalish (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be avaliable and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

Dheeraj Verma,

Esh gave some useful points of the situation. Beware of certain Elements who are everywhere active using the tripple gems as their disguise. Having really seen Dhamma, you would avoid their calls like fire.

The only drive of a mother (normal being) that leads to holding on the child is (self) identification, and such is not bad perse, but a good even required to gain release.

If one acknowledges that there is no Self, no driver, yet is still driven by the drives of wrong view, he could be good, following Mara, be on the highway to hell.

Beliving that there is no Self, no drive, is strong wrong view, and naturally followed by extreme dukkha, such as "depression". There are a lot who on account on overestimation do nothing but accumulate more demerits and harm for other beings, with their often popular teachings.

"There is no Self" is no realization of Dhamma at all, like "There is a self". The driver is conditioned, yet in a person not finally liberated, sitill precent, become and decay, moment for moment.

If having realized the spotless eye of Dhamma, having entered the stream, meaning that gained realease, first of all, joy and bliss are its indicators and secound, such a person would not ask what to do:

Just as a clean piece of cloth, free from grime, would properly take dye, in the same way the dustless, stainless eye of Dhamma arose for the money-lender as he was sitting right there—

“Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

Then the money-lender, having seen the Dhamma, having attained the Dhamma, having known the Dhamma, having fathomed the Dhamma, having crossed over and beyond uncertainty, having no more perplexity, having gained fearlessness, independence of others with regard to the Teacher’s message, said to the Blessed One,

The Discussion of Going-forth

So in short, in regard of your personal problem in this question: seek for admirable friends and assosiate with them and avoid enemies in disguise like fire. Serve and make merits in this area which will bring about fruits exclusively, and have joy knowing following and doing the right.

Usually, if one of the seven noble disciples, if not indebted strongly, seeks for outwardly going forth as well. In cases of having changed lineage, one either leads a very modest lay-life, withdrawn from assosiation with people of no integrity, or asks for going forth and walk there on.

Once again, such person has made the Dhamma to his island and would not ask (even wordilings) what to do with life. And again, such a person is safe of low states of existence, such includes also things like strong depression and other animalish (virtueless and primitive), hellish (strong suffering), hungry ghost (not able to find even slight satisfaction, joy) states.

Be careful and attentive. No one can actually help you if not taking on the right for yourself, might it be avaliable and given endless times.

If already a faith-follower, seeking the right bus, this guide will be a good friend: Into the Stream - A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening


[Note: This is a gift of Dhamma, not meant for commercial purpose and other low wordily gains by means of trade and exchange]

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