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Dec 22, 2016 at 13:36 comment added breath of course you should do this things right - and of course someone who dosnt drink or eat meat wont get somewhere by not doing this - you keep sila to help you develop Concentration and insight like i said if someone does this practices not for restraint and aid but to cause himself pain that wrong view - if someone will shave his head and wear robes just to look ugly and feel bad that wont be helpful to the practice but doing them as aid is helpful to the practice
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Dec 22, 2016 at 9:57 comment added MischievousSage Ascetic practices are only helpful if they are accompanied by things that lead towards arahantship, otherwise they wouldn't really help with much. Obviously drinking alcohol leads towards heedlessness but merely abstaining from alcohol by itself doesn't necessarily help one avoid lower destinations or achieve arahantship. Concentration and insight are more helpful.
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Dec 22, 2016 at 9:17 comment added MischievousSage Also in MN 14 The Buddha explains how the Niganthas (those who practice painful austerities) came from hell or were murderers, doers of what's cruel in the past as humans.
Dec 22, 2016 at 9:08 comment added MischievousSage Yes not drinking alcohol is one of the five precepts...in MN 45 The Buddha explains how an ascetic life (including some rules for Buddhists) wrongly practiced tormenting one's body leads to lower destinations (hell). Following some of the rules for Buddhists in a wrong manner would still lead towards hell (see Dhammapada, 311).
Dec 22, 2016 at 9:05 comment added breath asectic practices are helpful to practice
Dec 22, 2016 at 9:01 comment added breath He also pointed out that ascetic practices (which includes avoiding eating meat, drinking alcohol, etc...) are painful in the present and yield pain in the future not drinking alcohol is included in the 5 precepts Of course you can eat meat and be an arahant - and of course a vegeterian can still be an evil doer but i do belive not eating meat and not drinking alcohol are things which help reach arahantship it is important you dont do them to boast your moral and not do them for the purpose of casueing you suffering but if its done for the right reasons this things and otehr
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