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| May 1, 2017 at 6:10 | comment | added | Dhamma Dhatu | @ThiagoSilva for a broader discussion, you are welcome to read my thread, here, & discuss on the other forum: buddhismwithoutboundaries.com/…. Regards | |
| Nov 8, 2016 at 4:41 | comment | added | user382 | I'm just trying to get as much information on answers (specially of different points of view) as possible for the readers that come here looking to get informed. Sorry for any misunderstanding. | |
| Nov 8, 2016 at 3:04 | comment | added | Dhamma Dhatu | In short, I am not engaged in false or ignoble speech because what I post is real, knowable & experienceable. The Lord Buddha said to speak of things one does not really know is ignoble speech (AN 8.67 & 68). The practise of the noble eightfold path includes the factor of Right Speech, which includes honest/true speech. Kind regards. | |
| Nov 8, 2016 at 2:52 | comment | added | Dhamma Dhatu | My answer is fine. It is not myself that needs to do the work. It is not the duty of the explainers of knowable things to prove something in relation to the unknowable position. For example, it is not the duty of atheists to prove there is no god. "Birth" (jati) means the generation of "satta" ("beings"). "Marana" means aging & death occurring to a "satta" rather than mere physical aging & death. The word "satta" was defined by the Lord Buddha in SN 23.2, SN 5.10, etc. This jati & marana in relation to the "satta" the Lord Buddha explained is knowable. Where as your "rebirth" is unknowable. | |
| Nov 8, 2016 at 1:18 | comment | added | user382 | Sorry, I meant providing a little more backing up in your answer -- not in comments. I particularly don't find it convincing as it is, but if there were a more thorough analysis, say of the pali canon, that you could reference which advocate this perspective, then at least the answer would be contextualized and readers could go through detailed arguments and make their own mind. | |
| Nov 8, 2016 at 0:53 | comment | added | Dhamma Dhatu | The most common word in the Pali used for "rebirth" is "upapajjati". Here is "upapajjati" in MN 148: "Cakkhu attā’ti yo vadeyya taṃ na upapajjati. Cakkhussa uppādopi vayopi paññāyati. “If anyone says, ‘The eye is self,’ that is not tenable. The rise and fall of the eye are discerned, " | |
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| Nov 7, 2016 at 10:12 | comment | added | Dhamma Dhatu | These passage can be interpreted differently. "Kaya" means "group" or "collection" of five aggregates, such as in the term "sakkhaya ditthi". "Marana" is defined in D.O., which means the ego death of "beings" & "various orders of beings" (rather than physical death). "Beings" (satta) is defined in SN 23.2 and SN 5.10 as a state of attachment, as a view. The entire supramundane view revolves around the meaning of the word "satta" (beings). Regardless, these passages about kamma are not relevant to the question since the Buddha never ever declared kamma-vipaka was His unique teaching. Regards. | |
| Nov 7, 2016 at 7:05 | comment | added | user382 | Any reference to a more careful work on the literature showing that there's an alternative reading then the traditional one on rebirth passages is also welcome. | |
| Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 | comment | added | user382 | Can you provide a broader discussion of the passages that are usually taken as describing rebirth? For example, there are many passages in the format "break up of the body / after death / reappear at" -- do you think they are corruptions, or you have alternative interpretations? Also, if rebirth as tradition takes it is incorrect, it's natural to see dying as a escape from kamma fruits -- can you comment on that as well? | |
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| Nov 7, 2016 at 0:37 | history | answered | Dhamma Dhatu | CC BY-SA 3.0 |