Timeline for Is Mindfulness the same as having an Observer?
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| Jul 15, 2018 at 19:45 | answer | added | Warrenburns | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 17, 2017 at 12:38 | answer | added | user2341 | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 17, 2017 at 6:29 | answer | added | Dhamma Dhatu | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 4, 2016 at 4:43 | answer | added | user11235 | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 4, 2016 at 3:51 | answer | added | Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 3, 2016 at 17:31 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ |
In Buddhism, developing the witness/observer is a foundational piece of their teachings. That's a bit hard to fathom. It's true that practice like "watching the breath" is pretty orthodox.
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| Jan 3, 2016 at 16:51 | history | edited | user2341 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 2, 2016 at 21:40 | answer | added | user382 | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 2, 2016 at 15:56 | comment | added | user2341 | @ChrisW I will accept that as a statement of the question, although I suspect you have either reduced it to nothing, or I have misunderstood the ramifications. I am not a Philosopher, and not so great on Mathematics, either. If the answer does not now leap out at you from your own experience, then I think we have to call it a dead-end inquiry. | |
| Jan 2, 2016 at 15:53 | comment | added | user2341 | @ThiagoSilva OK, so: do other people (such as Buddhists) have the same model as I do, or am I the only one? I can't be, since I got these words from other people. Either I understood them correctly, or I am in a complete muddle. Please instruct me. | |
| Jan 2, 2016 at 15:53 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | If I do algebraic substitution (i.e. logic) using the first three definitions, then the question resolves to, "is 'the experience of being aware of what I'm doing' the same as 'the process of being aware of what I am doing'?" | |
| Jan 2, 2016 at 15:49 | comment | added | user382 | You already gave defintions for both mindfulness and observer. From then, since it's a model you are conceiving, you are instrumented to tell if you regard them as the same or not (e.g. do you understand processs and experience to be the same? and so on). Unless you are asking the relation of these to Buddhism? | |
| Jan 2, 2016 at 15:14 | answer | added | Andriy Volkov♦ | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:59 | history | edited | user2341 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:52 | comment | added | user2341 | @ChrisW you must have been talking to me while I was making lunch, just now, because I was realizing that... Time for an EDIT to the Question... | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:48 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | It seems to me that using vocabulary like "being aware of yourself" begs the question (e.g. that there is some well-defined "yourself"). IMO that can't be done unambiguously using conventional (for six-year-olds) words, and instead you might (or then again might not) want to use technical vocabulary with more precise definitions. | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:43 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | Einstein, eh? It reminds me of this video I saw today where he says that we're trained to expect an answer to every question (e.g. "what is the date today?"); but there's one type of question (i.e. "who are you?") that's especially difficult to answer. In this question, you make some statements using vocabulary and ask whether those statements are true. If Wolfgang Pauli were being rude he might reply to your Einstein that the statement is "Not even wrong". | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:33 | comment | added | user2341 | Maybe we can cut through the verb noun issue by saying: the Observer is being aware of yourself, Mindfulness is being aware of what you are doing. They seem different to me, but are they? Or are they intimately connected? | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:22 | comment | added | user2341 | @ChrisW In the self/noun thing, the OP commented: "A relation that relates itself to itself, not the relation itself, but the relation’s relating itself to itself in the relation. That's what I mean by action" Gack! No six year old would get that. | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:20 | comment | added | user2341 | @ChrisW Indeed. That is the question that I answered which caused me to think of the question I am asking now. If light traveled long enough, would it come around and hit you in the back of the head? | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:19 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | Also if the question is primarily about observer-as-agent versus mindfulness-as-activity, or about mindfulness-as-I, then a related topic might be Why talk and think about self as noun?. | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:18 | comment | added | user2341 | @ChrisW The best translation I have heard for dukkha is simply "unsatisfactory": no matter what you do, things either don't work out as you wished, or they ultimately fall apart. I am trying to use simple English words here. Cannot there be a simple English answer? As Einstein said, "If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself." | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:16 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | For future reference I guess you mean the word "observer" e.g. as you used it in this answer. | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 19:08 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | My mum dislikes my using non-English words (for example I lost her interest as soon as I tried to mention dukkha). | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 18:59 | comment | added | user2341 | @ChrisW Ask a simple question, get a complex answer. sigh | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 18:48 | comment | added | ChrisW♦ | Beware that Lanka is suggesting that "mindfulness" is a term used rather loosely (I presume that's from the perspective of the Theravada school and according to the vocabulary of the Pali canon). Mindfulness might be the English word used to describe something which is also translated as "bare attention" but there are nuances (other kinds of mindfulness and/or attention). | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 18:48 | comment | added | user2341 | Is this question related? | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 18:45 | answer | added | Tenzin Dorje | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 18:31 | history | asked | user2341 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |