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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

On the one hand, the Buddha said quite unambiguously that conditioned phenomena have a beginning, middle and an end, but on the other hand the Buddha said that "transmigration" or "...
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Does AN 3.47 refer to only single standalone sankhara?

To be honest, I don't think there are any standalone sankhara. The Theravada Abhidhamma does list out fundamental elements, upon which other composite elements are made of. The four great elements (...
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Does AN 3.47 refer to only single standalone sankhara?

There are basic elements (dhatu), when only visible to the ordinary human eye, such as earth & space, the give the impression of being non-composite. For example, a grain of sand on a massive sand ...
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Does AN 3.47 refer to only single standalone sankhara?

Yes, I suppose a being is indeed capable of arising, ceasing, and changing, but that's valid within a certain context. If one has realized a more decoupled existence, then it wouldn't make sense to ...
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Does AN 3.47 refer to only single standalone sankhara?

Can the arising, enduring and ceasing of a chariot not be known because it is a composite or made up of parts? Isn't the Ship of Theseus meant as a standard example of that? I think this is an "...
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Does AN 3.47 refer to only single standalone sankhara?

All conditioned phenomena are a result of conditional combination, and all the constituents are still made up of combination and so on. The law of impermanence of all conditional phenomena applies at ...
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Is the arising of a sentient being evident or not?

I don't see an apparent contradiction. Mara invites Vajira to "assume ‘a being’" -- or assumes that she assumes that -- and in that context asks, "given you're (assuming) a being, who ...
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Is the arising of a sentient being evident or not?

When I sit down, I have a lap. The lap arises. When I stand up, the lap is gone. The lap ceases. When I clench my fingers together, I have a fist. The fist arises. When I unclench my fingers, the fist ...
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Is the arising of a sentient being evident or not?

“Why now do you assume ‘a being’? Mara, is that your speculative view? This is a heap of sheer formations: Here no being is found. “Just as, with an assemblage of parts, The word ‘chariot’ is used, So,...
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Is the arising of a sentient being evident or not?

When we investigate being or self , we find that there is no being or self. Given that, there is no question of arising , changing and vanishing. All conditioned phenomena arise , change and vanish. ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

The Finke River in central Australia is said to be the oldest river in the world. It is 750km long and 350-400 million years old. It's kind of similar to the river of samsara in Buddhism, whose river ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

Do you agree this is a contradiction? First, when I read a sutta I look for meaning -- perhaps I assume it has a meaning -- and a context and a purpose. IMO each of these suttas is saying something ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

If we play on the words “no known beginning” to mean there is an “unknown beginning”, this might help clarify the situation. Likewise, the Buddha himself indicated that it is impossible to discover a ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

from mil5.2.3 ‘There is the non-inclusive expression, O king, whose meaning is non-inclusive, and the non-inclusive expression whose meaning is inclusive; there is the inclusive expression whose ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

I do not agree this an apparent contradiction between AN 3.47 & SN 15.9 because: AN 3.47 says all conditioned things having an arising/uprising (uppāda). SN 15.9 says moving about (samsara) has ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

A circle has no beginning, but we can by convention start at 0 degrees as a beginning and end at 360 degrees, ready for a new cycle. Transmigration is cyclic. But we can let go of chasing the cycles. ...
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Is there a real contradiction between AN 3.47 and SN 15.9?

This is an apparent contradiction. All conditioned phenomena are impermanent. All conditions are also conditioned phenomena. Therefore as conditions themselves are conditioned phenomena , we say a ...
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