Wikipedia describes ignorance and delusions. This appears to be academic and do not find examples that are easily related.
- What is ignorance?
- How is it different to delusions or are they the same?
- What are real world examples of ignorance?
Ignorance in Buddhism is not knowing the the Four Noble Truths.It is not knowing the truth behind suffering.
"And what is ignorance,...Not knowing about dukkha. MN 9 (Ñanamoli/Bodhi, trans.).
Avijja, the Pali word for ignorance, is the opposite of vijja, which means not only "knowledge" but also "skill" — as in the skills of a doctor or animal-trainer. So when the Buddha focuses on the ignorance that causes stress and suffering, saying that people suffer from not knowing the four noble truths,... Ignorance by Thanissaro Bhikku
Ignorance is similar to delusion but with subtle differences.In order to find the difference between delusion and ignorance i will first provide a definition for 'delusion'.
a belief that is not true : a false idea Merriam-webster dictionary
Comparing this definition with 'ignorance' in the buddhist context,delusion is a view based on ignorance.Delusion is similar to wrong view and ignorance is the not knowing itself.
To give a real world example,a person drives a car badly but think he is driving a car well.The person is deluded.Why is the person deluded?Because the person doesn't know what is good driving and bad driving.(Ignorance).The lack of knowledge in itself is ignorance and the actions that stem from it is delusional.
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Thanks. It is my understanding that ignorance gives rises to reaction, to which effect gives rises to consciousness. This is further elaborated at creative.sulekha.com/ignorance-motivating-thought_52851_blog. If the abolition of ignorance is the 4 noble truths, where does one start? Apr 4 '15 at 6:55
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@Motivated You have to start by developing the Fourth Noble Truth: Which is the Path to Cessation.The Eight Noble Path.Start with sila(virtue) then samadhi(concentration),then panna(wisdom).This is a more complete guide accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/bodhi/waytoend.html– OrionApr 4 '15 at 8:28
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@Motivated i also have to add that the abolition of ignorance is the clear seeing or knowing of the four noble truths.Not the four noble truth in itself.As the four noble truths are just a fact on why we are suffering.It depends on our ability to see it.So i have to emphasise the importance of seeing clearly as that is what abolishes ignorance.– OrionApr 4 '15 at 8:43
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Thanks Orion. I have come across the articles at Access to insight however as with many texts, the description is overtly academic in my opinion. Is there a guide, book, literature that is written in a way that can be expressed as stories? For example, if i wished to share this with a child, it would be far simpler to give similar stories that encapsulate the knowledge. Apr 5 '15 at 4:33
There are two types of ignorance:
Ignorance of not knowing (such as explained by Orion; and there is also not knowing [about] karma, and so forth). As Tsongkhapa writes in the Middle-Length Lam Rim:
Ignorance Ignorance is afflicted un-knowing due to a mind that is unclear with regard to the nature of the four truths, actions and their effects, and the Three Jewels.
ignorance which is a mistaken mode of apprehension.
The entity of ignorance which is 'a mistaken mode of apprehension' vary depending Tenets. For instance, Prasangika-Madhyamikas tend to define it as the conception of inherent existence of person and phenomena.
Though, all Tenets posit this ignorance as:
- An affliction. It is thus called 'afflicted ignorance'
- The first of the twelve links of dependent-arising
- The root of cyclic existence
The basis on which depend all other afflictions
Likewise, through the darkness of ignorance obscuring the clear mode of subsistence of the aggregates, the deception regarding the aggregates as a self arises, and from that the other mental afflictions arise.
A wrong consciousness
- A conceptual consciousness
- Concealing reality
The exact opposite of the exalted wisdom directly realizing emptiness
Although in general ignorance is posited as the mere opposite of knowledge, here it is the opposite of the knowledge realizing the lack of true existence
Superimposition of [a non-existent mode of existence, which vary in dependence of Tenets]
- And so forth.
answered Sep 28 '15 at 18:44
In Mahayana Buddhism "ignorance" has a special meaning. It's not just not knowing stuff, it's making assumptions based on superficial observations.
To use a basic example, if you look at a building and the side you see is white, you assume the entire building is white - even though the other side (the one you can't see) could be of any other color.
It seems like a sensible assumption to make, and a harmless one too - until you get into an argument with a person living on the other side who swears the building is painted blue.
Other random examples that come to mind:
- assuming that if something is pleasant it must be good for you; confusing pleasant and wholesome.
- assuming if something/someone is popular it must be valuable.
- all kinds of stereotyping of personal qualities, including but not limited to stereotyping by age, race, gender etc.
- assuming that the world around us have been this way before and will always stay the same; an illusion of stable world.
- assuming that receiving the (yet another!) desirable object will make one happy.
As you can see they all follow a similar formula: we make a generalization about things we don't fully know. Once we have made this mistake we have set ourselves up for trouble. Indeed, if we operate based on flawed assumptions it's only a matter of time before we clash with things as they really are. Unfortunately, most of us keep on grasping to our assumptions even after they are proven to be false. We keep on craving for things to be as we imagine them and suffer when they don't agree. Thus it is said that craving is the immediate cause of suffering, grasping (or attachment) is its condition and ignorance is its ultimate root.
You can see this mechanism at play in most conflicts: from global political and religious confrontations to a kitchen argument between you and your teenage child. It is in the nature of the developing human mind to make observations and build assumptions, even if both are simplistic and flawed.
In contrast to the childish thinking pattern of ignorance/grasping/craving, Buddha is free from suffering - through not craving for things to be otherwise. Buddha is free from craving - through not grasping at superficial observations and simplistic assumptions. Buddha is free from grasping - because Buddha avoids jumping to premature conclusions, Buddha prefers working with facts. This is called yathā-bhūta-ñāna-dassana, the knowledge and vision according to reality.
answered Sep 7 at 19:38
Ignorance is not seeing things as they are due to clouding by our perception, views, unskilled nature scattered nature of our mind. In relation to unsatisfactory nature of existence, it is not seeing the 3 marks of existence, the 4 noble truths and dependent origination.
Delusion can be the perception and view itself.
answered Apr 16 '15 at 4:04
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Avijja is uneducation about causes and effects, that arise and banish, or ariseless (NIBBANA).
The Pali term for ignorance is avijja. Avijja is sometimes equated to delusion (moha). But this is obviously a mistake because delusion involves false belief whereas ignorance is a lack of belief. There is a vast difference between false belief and the lack of belief. There is at least some hope in finding our false beliefs because they show up when we find relevant true beliefs. But lack of belief leaves us blind. Intellectually, of course, we can find new truths (such as the Dharma) that deal with intellectual ignorance. But that is not what avijja is about. Avijja is about a lack of awareness or perceptual knowledge. Without the appropriate awareness, a person remains ignorant in the sense meant by avijja. Knowing the Buddhist teachings is a good start, but only mindfulness meditation can deal with avijja. In my own practice of 50 years of mindfulness meditation, I can look back at earlier times and realize that, even though I was very familiar with Buddhadharma, my avijja was vast. And now, even though I am now aware of the foundations of the Teachings, I know that, on the level of awareness, the universe I have yet to explore is vast. Such is the nature of avijja.
What is ignorance? Answer: Not knowing the law of cause and effect.
How is it different to delusions or are they the same?
Answer: A delusion is based upon ignorance.
Delusion is a thought that comes about by poor interpretation of input we come into contact with.
For example: you smile at a person or see a person and that person believes there is a deep relationship.
What are real world examples of ignorance?
- speeding in a 35mph zone unaware of the sign
- not knowing the time at a given moment
- not being aware of some important phenomena such as a storm in another town.
Deluded belief is when a person does something wrong and knows that it's wrong but does it anyway. (Or knows something is wrong, etc. Or Believes something wrong and knows that it's wrong but continues with wrong belief).
