I'm looking for a quote by Pema Chodron. In my memory, she's having a discussion with a Zen master, and the quote goes something like this;

Pema: "what do you do when things fall apart?"

Zen Master: "I stay"

I seem to remember it being in her book When Things Fall Apart, but I searched it for the word 'stay' and I couldn't find this anywhere.

Does anybody recognise where it comes from? Maybe it's from a video or an audio recording of an interview with her? Maybe it exists only in the recesses of my memory?

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    Perhaps this reference may help: brainpickings.org/2017/07/17/…
    – OyaMist
    Feb 25 '21 at 14:55
  • Hi I searched 'stay' in that page but I couldn't find it, does it have the quote I'm looking for or is it just talking about related ideas? I'm hoping to find that exact quote if it exists
    – Joe
    Feb 25 '21 at 15:05

“To be fully alive, fully human, and completely awake is to be continually thrown out of the nest. To live fully is to be always in no-man's-land, to experience each moment as completely new and fresh. To live is to be willing to die over and over again. ”

― Pema Chödrön, When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times

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  • This is a nice quote, but it's not the one I was looking for. I was looking for one where Pema is talking to a Zen master. I actually found it a while back, I might post it a an answer later if I remember
    – Joe
    5 hours ago

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