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I remark that, when I am doing my meditation practice, I am still clinging to want to change the past. To make short, due to parents who had their own special way of education, I had quite a difficult adolescence (little freedom, constant shouting and constant dissatisfaction from my parents despite having quite good scholar results and causing no major problems (no drugs, no smoking ...), constant humiliation from my parents & my peers in middle & high school ). It was unfair and it was cruel.

On an intellectual level, I understand I cannot change the past. But on a deeper level, I still wished I could have had a "normal" adolescence. I feel that due to a low level of confidence, I missed some good opportunities.

And I am still clinging to this wish during my meditation practice (concentration on the breating). Could you give me some suggestions to help me ?

By the way, I do not know if this question belongs in this forum. If this is the case & you tell me, I will delete this question.

Edit after reading & thinking about the answers provided:

First, I want to thank you all.

Second, I had some epiphany after reading answers, thinking about them and listing to a meditation which was mentionned in one of the answers. I explain: in the meditation, the teacher speaks about a trip in which he was in a bus for nearly a day. He was stuck in a seat close to a place that was very smelly, and unfortunately, there was no other seat available. He first decided to focus on his breathing, but remarked after a few hours, that this had resulted in building tension. He remarked that he had used meditation to push the uncomfortable situation out of his mind. Once he used meditation to open to the uncomfortable situtation, things went better. And I thought: Oh, this is exactly what I was doing. I used meditation to push uncomfortable thoughts & feelings ouf of my mind. In fact, I realized that I did not want to accept what I had suffered. I thought I had accepted but deep down I had not. So now in my meditation practice, I try to open up to uncomfortable feelings & thoughts.

Thank you all

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    The way I worked out this exact problem was just sat down with my parents especially my father and with calm mind without showing emotions talked to them about the way they treated me and what I expected them of. Once I had this talk I gave them a big hug and in my my heart generated the feelings of forgiveness and loving kindness. That is called as metta in buddhism. So thats how you let go of the past burden. – The White Cloud Nov 15 '20 at 15:20
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I am not a teacher nor do I understand Buddhist teachings to a great extend yet therefore my answer is more of a sympathising approach.

I myself was brought up in what I consider a narrowminded religious environment. And I can't deny I held a grudge against my parents for some things they did or said.

I guess what it comes down to is the idea: What if my parents treated me differently? Would I be better of? Would I be happier?

But in my humble opinion that does not withstand close examination. If they treated you differently you would still need to pay rent. You would still need to work to eat. You would still catch the flu and suffer from fever. You would still have to suffer the pain of parting with things you hold dear.

Looking at it from the other side (here I have to speculate): I assume they fed you when you were hungry. They took you to the doctor when you were sick. They gave you shelter from the elements. If it weren't for them, would you be able to live as healthy as you do? Would you be able to live in a peaceful environment as you do now?

This is not about being best friends. It's not about forgiving and forgetting just because you will otherwise be punished. It is about being grateful for the help we received and wishing for other peoples happiness. Even when we consider them to be bad people.

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  • Thanks a lot for your answer, to give more info: yes they fed me, took me to the doctor, ... did all the "material things" parents normally do. What was wrong was on the "feelings " side. They hated me (for reasons I can only speculate, maybe I was too "soft") whereas I wanted them to love me. So basically when you say I would have to pay the rent or work, well I have no problem with that. I just wish for them to love me. So yes if they had treated me differently, I still think I would have been happier. That's the thing I would like to let go in my meditation practice. How do I do this ? – Makoto Nov 14 '20 at 21:15
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    Find out why you are holding on to it. With asking this question here you told us how holding the rope tight hurts because your muscles cramp. You told us what you are holding so tightly and I guess you think you told us why, but actually you haven't or at least I still don't know. – user19838 Nov 15 '20 at 1:59
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    I can only tell you how griping with your hands work. How the fingers encase the rope so it won't go away. I can try to show you reasons why it is not worthwhile holding on to it. How relaxing it will be for your hand to let go. There are 2 things I can not. Know why your griping it and make you letting it go. There is a mismatch between how you feel things should be and how they really are. Find the reason for this and I am sure you will be able to let go. The story of the fox user20010 gave is more or less what I try to find words for. – user19838 Nov 15 '20 at 2:01
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    thanks a lot for your advice – Makoto Nov 15 '20 at 8:45
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    and thanks for having taken the time to reply to my comments – Makoto Nov 15 '20 at 8:46
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The scripture Iti 74 says a child who practises Dhamma is superior to parents who do not practise Dhamma.

You cannot change the past.

However, you can clearly comprehend the immoral & wrong actions of your parents and then aspire to live in the opposite way.

You can aspire to not be like them, which means you treat other people in the manner you yourself wished you were treated.

In other words, you aspire to never ever repeat your parents mistakes & errors.

If you have some care for your parents, you can dedicate your efforts to your parents, as though to make merit for their sins.

As for 'gratitude to parents', the scriptures say children honor & venerate their parents who have been compassionate (rather than cruel) towards them. Refer to Iti 106.

Also, refer to my answer to this related question.

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Case 2 of the Mumonkan The Wild Fox

Every time Baizhang, Zen Master Dahui, gave a dharma talk, a certain old man would come to listen. He usually left after the talk, but one day he remained. Baizhang asked, “Who is there?”

The man said, “I am not actually a human being. I lived and taught on this mountain at the time of Kashyapa Buddha. One day a student asked me, ‘Does a person who practices with great devotion still fall into cause and effect?’ I said to him, ‘No, such a person doesn’t.’ Because I said this I was reborn as a wild fox for five hundred lifetimes. Reverend master, please say a turning word for me and free me from this wild fox body.” Then he asked Baizhang, “Does a person who practices with great devotion still fall into cause and effect?”

Baizhang said, “Don’t ignore cause and effect.”

Immediately the man had great realization. Bowing, he said, “I am now liberated from the body of a wild fox. I will stay in the mountain behind the monastery. Master, could you perform the usual services for a deceased monk for me?”

Baizhang asked the head of the monks’ hall to inform the assembly that funeral services for a monk would be held after the midday meal. The monks asked one another, “What’s going on? Everyone is well; there is no one sick in the Nirvana Hall.” After their meal, Baizhang led the assembly to a large rock behind the monastery and showed them a dead fox at the rock’s base. Following the customary procedure, they cremated the body.

That evening during his lecture in the dharma hall Baizhang talked about what had happened that day. Huangbo asked him, “A teacher of old gave a wrong answer and became a wild fox for five hundred lifetimes. What if he hadn’t given a wrong answer?”

Baizhang said, “Come closer and I will tell you.” Huangbo went closer and slapped Baizhang’s face. Laughing, Baizhang clapped his hands and said, “I thought it was only barbarians who had unusual beards. But you too have an unusual beard!”

I think you're looking at this backwards. There is ultimately nothing that anyone can say that will help you. Your past is your past. How it impacts you in your present life is up to you to disentangle. All of those feelings of regret, of wanting something to be other than it was, all of that is uniquely yours for 500 lifetimes unless you can find the key to liberation. Fortunately, the fact that you're sitting puts you half way there already.

But what kind of sitting are you doing? When we first start down the path of meditation, we can quickly become enraptured by the states it offers. It can almost feel like those sits that aren't peaceful, tranquil, and transcendent are missed opportunities. All of the distractions that we endure, all of those petty unresolved aspects of our personal history - we get agitated because they disrupt that bliss. How can we become Buddhas if our pasts keep pulling us out of samadhi???

So many people stupidly ride an ox the foot of the hill when really they should be dancing with foxes in the mountains.

We all have our foxes and each one is a terrific opportunity to wake up. Clinging to what could have been has a red face and a bushy tail. Keep sitting and looking at that clinging. Make friends with it. Get to know what it likes, who its friends are, and what it eats for dinner. Sit with it. Nourish it with your practice. Feed it with emptiness. Dance with it under the moon. And when it finally dies, I promise you that you'll want to give it a monk's funeral.

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  • thanks a lot for bringing up the metaphor – Makoto Nov 15 '20 at 9:55
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I think that memories have to be explored and expressed warmly and strongly and emotionally and loudly when they are agitating you, and that you should not sit still, so find some forest or put on some music or find a friend or a worker who is good to talk to about these things, and express yourself. I have similar memories and they take time to abate, and expressing them without the constraints of society will give your mind some peace. Over time the memories will become less fresh in your head and your will fill your life with nicer memories which will replace them, and you will find that memories are like a sting or a cut or a depression, it's good to express feelings and also find better memories and goals and dreams to motivate you.

Having a good talk with a friend or a good shout about something when you are chopping some wood or shaking some trees or is the natural way to feel better, and it gives a good feeling after, and you need to do it as many times as you need to until your memories have an emotional outlet. Perhaps it takes 10/20 years, but it's better to express memories.

Buddha came from a very happy and serene and peaceful home. He only witnessed worldly hardships when he traveled away from his parents and his home. This gave him an advantage for studying spirituality, temptations, meditation, but Buddha's teachings are less developed than some of today's psychology for expressing traumatizing memories, because Buddha didn't allegedly have very many of them.

This means that you have a strong emotional barrier in your mind. Meditation is very good for mental focus and inner peace, although you can try modern methods of dealing with complex repressed memories which are trying to be externalized.

I'd recommend talking to a psychologist or an energy worker or a good friend or a tree or some rocks and telling them how you feel, so that you get the words out that you want to say. I expect that you want to express yourself on the subject and that has been suppressed, so it is trying to rise up. Scientology is generally corrupted, although there is a positive notion of going into early memories with a positive memory worker and finding what your memories mean to you.

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  • thanks a lot for your time and your comment ! – Makoto Nov 15 '20 at 8:59
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I hope this finds you well today.

Lots of good advice here addressing the roots, causes, conflicts, and how the sacred texts apply. But if you’ll indulge me, I’d like to step back and look at it terms of practice.

Think of it like, you’re getting a lot of good advice from doctors, and I’m just your buddy at the mental gymnasium.

There’s a Catch-22 will recurring thoughts. On one hand, they are disrupting your practice. On the other, the thoughts are not good or bad. They just are, and fully experiencing them is part of the way.

My Secular Buddhism 101 way to approach them, focusing on practice and not doctrine or dogma, is through the practice of noting. I don’t wanna put words in your mouth, so speaking generically, maybe categorize it as regret or reminiscing or obsessing about the past. Noting, then, is the first step in the process described by the three most powerful words in the universe: simply begin again. You note the thought, feeling, or sensation, and then remind yourself to simply begin again.

A good refresher is here: https://mindfulnessexercises.com/noting-thoughts-to-see-where-the-mind-is/

Another good reference is the seven part Basics I course by Joseph Goldstein over at tenpercent.com For my money, no one covers noting better than Joseph, and his writings, lectures, podcasts and what not are pretty easy to find.

I also wanna throw one more thing out there, that works for some people, others not so much, but definitely worth a try. I first heard it from the writer and teacher Jeff Warren, https://jeffwarren.org/exploration/welcome-to-the-party/

Jeff’s technique is to take noting, apply some humor (which sounds counterintuitive for dealing with anything serious or traumatic), and welcome the thoughts to your session. For me, it is typically regret for past actions that I have not fully put aside. “Hello, regret, welcome to the party. Together, let’s simply begin again.”

One more pop culture quote that I think summarizes it. From Andy Prudhomme: The part of your mind that is thinking will try to tell you that more thinking is the answer. This is no different than any other social interaction. If you are a farmer, and your crop is struggling, the guy who sells seeds will tell you you need to buy better seeds. The guy who sells fertilizer will tell you that you need better fertilizer. And the guy who sells tractors will tell you that you need a new John Deere. Our mind does the same thing to us, and the thinking part of our mind tells us that we need to obsess and analyze and contemplate everything in our past. So, from a “training the mind“ standpoint, we are acknowledging the thinking part of our mind, asking it to walk with us, and simply beginning again.

Just wanted to look at it from a “how” instead of a “what” or “why” standpoint. I hope there’s something useful for you in here.

Be well and stay safe!

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Metta practis, (starting ones session, after Venerations, with metta spreading, but also much of it best all the time) is the usual counterpart to overcome ill-will, good householder.

What ever meditation, trained without right view present, without gratitude, without metta, if even gaining concentration, would lead just to wrong concentration. So actually better to do not develope a wrong path. Right effort turns around right view, right resolve and virtue.

Ill-will toward ones parents, lack of gratitude, is a very grave sign of wrong view, young householder. No change to ever progress if ones beneficer aren't placed right in ones heart.

[note that this isn't given for stacks, exchange, or other world-binding trades, but for an escape from this wheel]

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  • look I do not want to enter in a argument, but they did very bad things, it was abuse (but not in a sexual way). I have tried to mend the relation several times but they do not change. So it is difficult to feel gratitude, except if you tell me that it is required to feel gratitude for abusers to escape from the wheel. I do want to escape, but with authenticity (aligning myself with the truth) – Makoto Nov 14 '20 at 17:29
  • Does good householder like to make progress, or stay in the wheel and wander on with this unfortune folk here you are caught? So simply don't argue, for it wouldn't be right anyway, if desire for better. Or go on and seek win. – Samana Johann Nov 15 '20 at 0:16
  • Good householder wanted to come and it's much more common that ones chosen parents would kill one of. So in no way a change to be not obigated, indebted toward ones parent. Of course such does not mean to approve possible wrong, yet huge giving remains,nobody else did, nobody, for a child. – Samana Johann Nov 15 '20 at 0:25
  • And yes, metta has to be developed even torward the most cruel abuser. As for right, those might be of help: Justice vs. Skillfulness – Samana Johann Nov 15 '20 at 0:27
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Aren’t the main questions there first what you remember your teacher expounding and then what your teacher said when you raised this very Question?

I don’t need to be a Buddhist to know there are broadly two types of meditation: transcendental and others.

Broadly, the “transcendental” part of TM is literal: the method moves above and beyond any idea of letting go, or wanting, change or past even while it’s letting go.

Broadly, other methods - possibly including Buddhist - concentrate on a subject for what can be learned from it. Concentrating on the breathing puts your teaching in the second group, though closer to TM than most.

Who doubts that if in meditation you are clinging to wanting to change the past, that’s broadly for two reasons.

The first would be that in the context of meditating, all the details in your Post were simply details with no bearing on the idea of the past, or of changing it, or of clinging.

Further, if you must mediate on a subject don’t you think that subject should be not the past, nor wanting to change it, but the concept of clinging?

Personally, I don’t think this Question belongs to Buddhism, unless someone’s suggesting Buddhism is most about meditation.

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