its a pretty straight forward question. facts only please, no opinions, and i request that only an experienced and well practiced zen buddhist answer this question (to avoid speculation).


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    I don't think we can honour requirements for certain types of people answering certain questions; this is a democratic forum and any member with a good answer is welcomed to answer any question. If you require that your answers be from a specific subset of humans that is different from the subset making up the entirety of this forum, then I think you should look elsewhere for your answers. If anyone disagrees with me, maybe we should take it up in meta. – yuttadhammo Oct 5 '14 at 22:56
  • I think it's fair to to ask answers come from a particular school of thought. Otherwise, that's exactly how SE works. – MatthewMartin Oct 27 '14 at 20:50
  • This is a vegetarianism question right? Chinese Chan is vegetarian (as is Korean, Vietnamese and Japan up to the Meiji Reformation). Animals are not to be eaten, people who take Upsasaka Vows don't own animals. Bodhisattva Vows, required to rescue animals, including farm animals. But US and Japanese Zen are generally not vegetarian, but vegetarians are over represented by about a factor of 50. This question is probably a dupe if it is a vegetarian question, unless the other Q has some sort of deficit. – MatthewMartin Oct 27 '14 at 20:54
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    @MatthewMartin It might have been a question related to whether it should have been acceptable for the OP to bring his dog to a multi-day meditation camping retreat. – ChrisW Oct 27 '14 at 22:03
  • Oh that one again. – MatthewMartin Oct 28 '14 at 1:27

I am not a well practiced zen buddhist but just a practitioner of zen buddhism. I do not know the answer but I do know where I would look for this answer. If I were tasked with finding the above I would look in the Diamond Sutra.

"The Diamond Sutra advises us to throw away is the notion “man,” human being. This is not too difficult. When we look into the human being, we see human ancestors, we see animal ancestors, we see vegetable ancestors, we see mineral ancestors. We see that the human is made of non-human elements. We see that we are at the same time a rock, a river, a cloud, a squirrel, a rose. And if we take away all the non-human elements, the human being is no longer there.

This is the deepest teaching on deep ecology. In order to protect the human being, you have to protect elements that are not human, because these elements are our ancestors, and if you destroy them there is no way we can be here. That is why discrimination between man and nature is a wrong view. You have to see you as nature, one with nature.

That is why harmony, respect of life, is possible. So throw away the idea that the human being is the boss, man is the boss, man can do anything to nature. The key is contemplation on impermanence of non-self."

-Thich Nhat Hanh, Dharma Talk: Free from Notions, Ocean of Peace Meditation Hall Deer Park Monastery Sunday, September 25, 2001


> Cut the bull!!!

  • its cut... or is that a simile?... if so i dont get it. please explain... – A Nonimous Oct 5 '14 at 20:16
  • Since ancient times the animals in the jungle coexist side by side. They go about their business without bumping into each other. "Why people seem blind and don't understand despite all explanations?" -- I ask myself. Because they work hard to ignore the obvious. I see you are tired of yourself and yet you keep dragging it around. Cut the bull and return to primordial clarity. Remember the animals in the jungle... :) – Andrei Volkov Oct 5 '14 at 21:06
  • How is this an "answer"? (Flagged) – Gottfried Helms Oct 27 '14 at 22:22
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    @GottfriedHelms it's a Zen answer, have you never seen a live Zen master? ;) – Andrei Volkov Oct 27 '14 at 23:33
  • I've seen one, (but read of several), but I didn't think we've made a zen-dojo here in stackexchange. (Unfortunately I've the result of the related discussion on meta not in mind at the moment, I'll see later, no time now) – Gottfried Helms Oct 28 '14 at 5:41

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