I believe that I remember once reading that the Buddha abandoned excessive meditation. Is this true?

  • The question is very broad in it's current format - do you have any recollection of where in the Tipitaka (Pali canon) it's mentioned? Are you sure you are not thinking of the ascetic practices that the Buddha did before finding the right path?
    – user2424
    Commented Nov 11, 2019 at 16:21
  • Maybe it was at the time before his enlightenment yes
    – Malik A
    Commented Nov 13, 2019 at 9:25

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the buddha says that ''with excessive thinking and pondering I might tire my body, and when the body is tired, the mind becomes strained, and when the mind is strained, it is far from concentration.'' https://suttacentral.net/mn19/en/bodhi same thing with ''excessive energy'' https://suttacentral.net/mn128/en/sujato

he says meditation must be ''made much of'' https://suttacentral.net/arv12/en/anandajoti

  • Ok thanks a lot
    – Malik A
    Commented Nov 5, 2019 at 13:04

MN8 indicates that blissful meditation is incomplete on its own:

mn8: It’s possible that some mendicant, with the giving up of pleasure and pain, and the ending of former happiness and sadness, might enter and remain in the fourth absorption, without pleasure or pain, with pure equanimity and mindfulness. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the noble one these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘blissful meditations in the present life’.

The Buddha goes on to explain that self-effacement is important as well:

mn8: Now, Cunda, you should work on self-effacement in each of the following ways.

mn8: ‘Others will be cruel, but here we will not be cruel.’ ...

The exposition is lengthy, but quite clear. Practice goes beyond meditation.

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    Ok thanks for that
    – Malik A
    Commented Nov 8, 2019 at 7:08

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