What happens if no beings choose to act on one's bad karma?

Does one then hallucinate one's bad karma? ( By this I mean i.e. is there experiencing of hallucinations (or illusions) alongside things such as real pain? ).

E.g. What would have happened to Moggallāna if no being chose to attack him?

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  • Following is possible ::1.) punishment by natural phenomenon like hurricane , flood , volcanic eruption ,thunder bolt etc. 2.) punishment through defilements like sadness , depression , insomania , illness ,etc. where punishment is un-intentional (cause illness can be due to bacteria , virus which don't want to punish anyone ,just wanna fill their belly). As per enlightened one ,reasons & fruits behind karmic activity come back to us.Eg. ,Sacrifice an animal & same amount of agitation & pain come back towards Sacrificer mind along with sankharas within to cling towards this pain. – user17220 Nov 7 '19 at 1:29
  • I edited the question but changed it back to earlier version. By "Does one then hallucinate one's bad karma?" I mean i.e. is there experiencing of hallucinations (or illusions) alongside things such as real pain? – Angus Nov 7 '19 at 14:41
  • For enlightened one :: Nope , no kind of hallucination/ illusion /punishment can change behaviour & hence Mind. For Others :: Yes , Punishment will effect to the extent of remaining Ignorance. – user17220 Nov 7 '19 at 15:20
  • I edited the question again so now the extra descriptiveness is in the question. – Angus Nov 7 '19 at 16:08

The suttas (SN 12.37) say [the results of] old kamma are to be felt [as feelings] & not identified with (not acted upon). This will dissolve the results of old kamma. This is why the suttas (AN 6.63) say the Noble Eightfold Path destroys/ends kamma.

As for Moggallāna, according to mythology, he was attacked because he made the Jain religion look bad when he reported Jain followers had poor rebirth. This is just a worldly matter and unrelated to any kamma of Moggallāna because, as an Arahant, Moggallāna would not have identified with any past actions & present painful feelings & therefore would not have suffered when he was attacked.

Many people hated the Buddha & wanted to kill him. That people hated the Buddha is not related to the Buddha's kamma. The Buddha has no "kamma" in the ordinary sense of the word.

MN 117 explains the ordinary meaning of "kamma" is connected to "asava" ("defilements" ) and "acquisitions" ("upadhi"; "attachment"). Arahants are free from "acquisition" thus are free from "kamma".

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I believe that beings have the choice to act or not act on one's bad karma.

It seems like a good idea and safest to assume that the consequences of one's bad karma will necessarily be severe.

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  • I edited the answer and it reads: "I believe that beings have the choice to act or not act on one's bad karma.". I am doubtful that free will exists though (by "free will" I mean decision-making that is uninfluenced by any conditions.) but I do believe that a being's bad karma does not force other beings to do bad-action. – Angus Nov 9 '19 at 18:02

Kamma is only one of the five Niyamas. Five Niyama's are Citta, Dhamma, Utu, Biju, and Kamma. The operation of Kamma is hard to understand in certainty. If Arhant does not exhaust of all his Kamma in this life all residual Kamma become non-operative.


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