For those Buddhists who claim that some sentient beings are Icchantikas, do they mean that those sentient beings cannot make any form of progress along the Buddhist path?

All I know is that, following tao-sheng, most Buddhists think that the Icchantika has buddha-nature, and that the term can also refer to Bodhisattvas, who postpone their Buhddhahood. What I'm especially interested in is whether an Icchantika can make progress toward arhatship, anything like that?

  • Wikipedia says that all schools -- except the Fanxian school, and one version of one sutra -- say "yes, all beings can." Is that not what you were asking?
    – ChrisW
    May 8, 2019 at 16:17
  • i'll edit my question, thanks! @ChrisW
    – user2512
    May 8, 2019 at 16:18
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    Can Mickey Mouse make any form of progress along the Buddhist path? :)
    – Andriy Volkov
    May 9, 2019 at 11:39
  • Bodhisattvas vow to liberate all sentient beings, so???? May 10, 2019 at 4:13

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"Possessing" grave wrong view (niyata micca ditthi) is one of the 6 reasons why one is, better does (since holding a view is an action) incapable to grow in Dhamma, incapable in reaching even paths or fruits, yes. But! ...to think that the view of a being is something inherent, lasting, not conditioned, for it's own, is already near niyata micca ditthi. So beware of Mohayanas.

The so-called 'evil views with fixed destiny' (niyata-micchāditthi) constituting the last of the 10 unwholesome courses of action (kammapatha), are the following three:

(1) the fatalistic 'view of the uncaused ness' of existence (ahetukaditthi),

(2) the view of the inefficacy of action' (akiriyaditthi),

(3) nihilism (natthikaditthi).

Those who hold such views are for the most already on the "highway to hell".

Those views are actually not seldom, even under "Buddhist" and therefore it's very importand, even if having tendency toward such views, to do an effort and seek out for people with right view to assosiate with. See How to address wrong view?

To be incapable to change one view has to do with "stupidy" or mental defect, and as such is also a root reason that no grow in Dhamma can be attained for the time such may last, arises.

Thinking that being have such as a inherent Buddhanature or not, the current potential to awakening, or not, such is also grave wrong view. And it's mostly the case that things which one makes himself busy outwardly are very related to ones own case and so take care.

Whether there are being generally not able to gain way out, how many beings would reach awakening... all such answers the Buddha did not gave into, using to teach "simply" cause and effect, "from this comes that", "with the arising of this, that arises", and it's good to watch out simply this, giving much faith into focus just on causes, for effects of them come by themself.

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An icchantika is a person with a dark mind who change when Good circumstanses appear again.And the buddanature who can never be destroyed will be shown in that person,and he will be om the path to liberation. Nirvana.


In Swedish. En icchantika är en person med ett utplånat samvete,dock ej evigt då buddanaturen och nirvana är det enda bestående.

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