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What are great forty? What are the great forty according to following Sutta. I can identify 30.

Noble tenfold path with mundane and supermundane account for 20

Wrong tenfold path account for another 10.

What is the remaining 10?

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“Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view come first? In one of right view, right intention comes into being; in one of right intention, right speech comes into being; in one of right speech, right action comes into being; in one of right action, right livelihood comes into being; in one of right livelihood, right effort comes into being; in one of right effort, right mindfulness comes into being; in one of right mindfulness, right concentration comes into being; in one of right concentration, right knowledge comes into being; in one of right knowledge, right deliverance comes into being. Thus, bhikkhus, the path of the disciple in higher training possesses eight factors, the arahant possesses ten factors.

https://suttacentral.net/mn117/en/bodhi

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In one of (R.1.1) right view, wrong view (W.1.1) is abolished and the many evil unwholesome states (W.1.2) that originate with wrong view as condition are also abolished, and the (R.1.2) many wholesome states that originate with right view as condition come to fulfilment by development .... In one of (R.10.1) right deliverance, wrong deliverance (W.10.1) is abolished, and the many evil unwholesome states (W.10.2) that originate with wrong deliverance as condition are also abolished, and the (R.10.2) many wholesome states that originate with right deliverance as condition come to fulfilment by development.

Thus, bhikkhus, there are twenty factors on the side of the wholesome and twenty factors on the side of the unwholesome.

10 right factors + 10 wholesome states originating from 10 right factors + 10 wrong factors + 10 unwholesome states originating from 10 wrong factors = 40

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  • What are these R.1.1 and W.1.1 etc.? – SarathW Mar 10 '19 at 20:10
  • @SarathW Right and Wrong – Bonn Apr 4 at 2:15
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Following 10 factors

  1. view
  2. intention
  3. speech
  4. action
  5. livelihood
  6. effort
  7. mindfulness
  8. concentration
  9. knowledge
  10. liberation

are expanded 4 ways as:

  1. right [view, intention, ..., liberation]
  2. wrong [view, intention, ..., liberation]
  3. wholesome state from the right [view, intention, ..., liberation]
  4. unwholesome state from the wrong [view, intention, ..., liberation]

The 20 factors on the unwholesome side are the 10 wrong factors and the unwholesome states that originate from each. The 20 factors on the wholesome side are the 10 right factors and the wholesome states that originate from each

Maha Cattarīsaka Sutta

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I read MN 117 as follows:

  • 10 wholesome factors by developing (good) and abandoning (bad) = 20 wholesome
  • 10 unwholesome factors by developing (bad) and abandoning (good) = 20 unwholesome

https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22062&p=485161&hilit=forty#p485161

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  • Hi Chris. Is my analysis different to Suminda and DD? – SarathW Apr 4 at 6:25
  • I found DD's difficult to read/understand -- it took me a while to understand his numbering scheme (e.g. "R.1.1" etc.). Suminda's is clearer, easier to read. I think yours is the same but is the easiest to read and understand, isn't that so, or do you think yours is different? – ChrisW Apr 4 at 9:25
  • Agree. I could not understand DD so I thought he is saying something diffrent.-) – SarathW Apr 5 at 1:23

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