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How can someone take rebirth with non-heterosexual inclinations? What specific karmic acts will lead to rebirth with this trait of non heterosexuality?

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I think the question is unimportant because Buddhism does not provide an answer for this question & because in Buddhism there is a path for laypeople that can be practised by both heterosexual & homosexual people. I personally know gay people who are very spiritual, very moral, very faithful to their partners & extremely compassionate. In short, there is no inherent correlation between casual sex, infidelity & homosexuality.

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  • 1/ The dharma is about training the mind to see things as they actually are. Within that context, ALL questions are important and punishing people for pursuing truth is contrary to the dharma.
    – Alex Ryan
    Jul 25 at 19:49
  • 2/ One evolutionary theory is that homosexuality is caused when the mother is very stressed during pregnancy. This turns on an epigenetic switch. The evolutionary reason for this is to produce a child who will not reproduce but will help to protect and provide for his or her siblings who will. Source: Ted Talk: Homosexuality: It's about survival - not sex: James O'Keefe
    – Alex Ryan
    Jul 25 at 19:49
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    @AlexRyan, that has been debunked: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2059147 neither between-family nor within-family analyses revealed a maternal stress effect for sexual orientation
    – Codosaur
    Jul 26 at 8:08
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My first teacher taught how different types of attachments lead to certain karmic situations. According to that system, homosexuality comes from attachment to high ideals and high standards.

Different types and levels of attachment to high ideals lead to different scenarios, some lead to cancer, some to immune system problems, some to mental illness, while some end up growing into positive achievements. There all kinds of karmic scenarios, in one life or spread over multiple lives, so it's hard to be more specific, but generally speaking there's connection between attachment to high ideals and high standards, and homosexuality.

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  • Any reasons why attachment to high ideals and high standards may lead to homosexuality?
    – ruben2020
    Feb 20 '18 at 0:26
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    They are co-supporting tendencies. I more or less understand how it works but not well enough to be able to explain it.
    – Andrei Volkov
    Feb 20 '18 at 1:37
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I looked for 'homosexual' and 'gay' in more than six hundred Dharma e-books I have, and found no more than three mentions on the topic:

  1. Geshe Tenphel says:

Attachment is to be abandoned, whether it occurs in a heterosexual or homosexual person.

  1. Again Geshe Tenphel:

However, is it the case that gay people are born gay? Is it not that due to circumstances later on during someone’s life that he or she becomes homosexual? I myself am not sure how this happens.


And being a geshe, he studied for at least twenty years.

  1. A mention that homosexual actions are non-virtuous in the same way that sodomy (between a man and a woman), cunnilingus (between a man and a woman), masturbation, etc. are.

This being said, one of the issues of my approach here is that 'homosexual' and 'gay' are fairly recent terms. However, I could imagine contemporary translators using it in translating even traditional texts. It is shorter than "men who are attracted to men" and the like. Still, my finding or lack of it thereof is partial.


Now, to give you my own answer: Generally, we say that a state results from negative karma only insofar as it hinders one's Dharma practice. For instance, being born blind or becoming blind... being a woman in a society that makes it difficult to achieve anything and access Dharma, etc. as a woman... being gay in a place where homosexuality is an issue, etc. On the other hand, being gay does not hinder one's practice in and of itself. From this viewpoint, I would think that being gay does not result from negative actions. It might result from negative actions if it is completed by being born in an intolerant society where we do not have access to education, Buddhist temples, etc. as a gay. In addition, the suffering feeling that arises in dependence on being gay would result from negative actions. But:

  1. Such a feeling does not necessarily occur.
  2. One might have suffering feeling in relation to eating an ice cream. The feeling itself says nothing of the object.
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Human society as a whole has a deep and abiding attachment to the concepts of masculinity and femininity. We see it in every culture, every time period, every place and nation. Nothing creates tanhā and dukkha as quickly or effectively as thoughts about one's place in the sexual pecking order. If we rid ourselves of those attachments, then the world is no longer divided into gay people and straight people; there's just people, who love as they see fit.

There's no sense trying to suss out how the karmic world brought us to where we are. All we need to do is release ourselves from the attachments we are subject to.

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Well, how we are born is due to past Kamma (among other natural laws as well).

While that is said, Buddhism goes much deeper than the physical appearance, ones sexual orientation, political preferences etc.

Buddhism is about ending suffering. Its about cultivating and purifying the mind and eventually becoming free from Samsara.

One can practice the Path no matter what ones sexual orientation is. These things are not important. What is important, is the quality of mind in an individual.

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People say, and I suspect it's true, that there's nothing on that topic in the suttas.

And given that the workings of karma are difficult to explain, to predict, to know (i.e. perhaps only the Buddha is able to do it), I mistrust non-canonical opinions on that subject.

For what it's worth, here for example is a quote from a book Sexuality in Classical South Asian Buddhism by José Ignacio Cabezón:

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I post that as evidence that people do find (and/or have written) that kind of attitude or explanation in some scriptures.

I'm unable to identify exactly what he's quoting, though (The Scripture on the Benefits of the Five Trainings), or to find that translation elsewhere.

Anyway, according to that you may be reborn as "queer men" for the same kind of reason as you may be reborn as "women"; or as animals, in hell, or as ghosts.

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  • I voted this post down because it does not link to an authoritative source Feb 19 '18 at 20:26
  • Does "not authoritative" mean that you don't believe the author of the book, or is it that you don't believe the author of the quoted "scripture"? I tried to answer something like, "There is some scripture (e.g. as suggested by Sankha's answer), but I'm not sure everyone would consider that scripture as reliable ... e.g. this author writes that the scripture is late, postdating early Pali suttas."
    – ChrisW
    Feb 19 '18 at 20:38
  • Yes it is hard to believe every scripture, isn't it, or to take it literally. And, there are reasons (doctrinal and historical) why you might conclude that "Certainly, this is not the Blessed One's utterance; this has been misunderstood". I think it might be counterfactual though to pretend that no scripture (doctrine) like this exists. Also I don't think it's possible to heap contempt on Buddhism.
    – ChrisW
    Feb 20 '18 at 8:48
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    When refuge is taken in the Triple, the Dhamma is regarded as visible in the here & now. That is the official refuge. Best wishes Feb 20 '18 at 11:06
  • I also down voted. This, because I believe the original and main question of the top was not answered. Also feel that since there is nothing to back up the Canon interpretation you’ve mentioned, it should have been stated as your opinion if true or confirmed otherwise. All the best
    – C Smith
    Feb 20 '18 at 16:24
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Association is the first outwardly condition to tend toward something and it's by not associating that one does not cling toward something. With who or what one goes into relation, tends toward it, there one arrives and it might also explain why more global trends work like-a-like. The more touched by pattern and possible not knowing backwards, the more inclination toward such.

So may one take care with what and whom one goes into relation, falls step by step into debts and good to maintain always moral and shame, at least if addicted, to do prevent others from dangerous touch.

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Not all gay people are alike and there is no definitive designation for gayness.

In a qualified sense, id say there can be many causes for with or without difficulty developing same sex attraction or having a strong inclination; like being another sex not too long ago, developing an unbalanced fascination with masculine or feminine faculties, perhaps looking down on feminity altogether & extolling masculinity much, or acting in femine or masculine ways much with thoughts & action for some reason.

Sutta say that one who is successful in emulating a dog or an ox is born in their company and has their sexuality.

It's a matter of conditioning and nobody remains unchanged over time.

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Some people are extremely lustful towards the opposite sex that they wish to become like the opposite sex. This may lead to being born as lesbian or gay.

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    Would you happen to have scriptural references? Feb 19 '18 at 10:56
  • @TenzinDorje There's a reference to breaking the 3rd precept and being born as gay. Cannot find it at the moment. Feb 19 '18 at 13:04

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