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Together they refer to one's mental processes as a whole. Separately, what are they and how are they different?

  • if you read the abhidharma, it i think becomes clear that there are many ways of talking about / dividing up the same thing. the dharmas (also the root term for any reality) / dhatus, e.g. what's really important is the realisation etc. that it is all empty of persons / svabhava. – sorta_buddhist Aug 12 '17 at 22:12
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'Citta' (the C is pronounced as ch in cheetah) is a generic word for mind, including thoughts as well as emotional state. When the Chinese translated Buddhist texts they often used 'shin', the heart-mind, to indicate citta.

'Manas' (both As are pronounced as in Adam) is the "inner eye" that can see thoughts, memories, and one's state of mind (citta).

'Vijnana' (jna is pronounced as jnya - i.e. with soft n) is experience of reality that arises from mind's ability to recognize and interpret new stimuli by relating and comparing them with memories of past experiences.

  • @I find these definitions helpful. If correct, would it be right to assume that manas is one of the main operating factors in samadhi/(rupa) dhyanas? – Erik Jul 30 at 12:02
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This is what i've gathered from reading about this in the Plum Village (Thich Nhat Hanh) tradition and from my own experience. Please feel free to update and improve, i am not sure about everything

The eight conciousnesses

There are eight consciousnesses (not counting Vijnana which is split into six parts):

  • Vijnana
    • Eye Consciousnesses
    • Ear C.
    • Nose C.
    • Tongue C.
    • Body C.
    • Mind C.
  • Manas
  • Citta (Store C.)

Vijnana

The "top level" of conciousness - we are most conscious of the experiences happening in this part of the mind

The first five c.

The first five consciousnesses have access to "reality in itself" with no discrimination/dualism (me and you, subject and object, etc). They are in "direct contact" with reality. They are not distorted by our thinking and our past experiences.

The sixth c.

The sixth conciousness "mind" is the part of our mind with ideas and it has access to (at least parts of) all the seven other conciousnesses. When the sixth conciousness collaborates with the first five the connection with "reality in itself" is interrupted

The sixth is itself suspended for example while sleeping without dreaming. When dreaming the sixth is active and gets all it's information from the eigth conciousness (Citta)

Manas

Strongly connected with the sixth conciousness (mind c.), it grasps at experiences

Thich Nhat Hanh writes:

In the seventh consciousness there are four basic afflictions: self-delusion, self-love, self-view, and self-conceit. The basic illusion inherent in all four afflictions is the illusion about self: this body is mine, is me; this feeling is me; these emotions are me; this consciousness is me and I am independent from everything else

Citta

Unconcious, contains all experiences we've had, all is stored here

Visual overview

I drew the picture below for our Sangha group where we brought up manas and am happy to share it here. The image contains an example where a seed in the store (Citta) has been watered (maybe by something we have seen or heard together with our perceptions) and that seed has manifested in the mind consciousness

overview-of-the-mind


References:

  • may be worth noting that the manas is sometimes called the klista-manovijnana. i always confuse the two (mano / manas) – sorta_buddhist Aug 12 '17 at 22:27
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Manas is past mind, citta is future mind, and vijnana is present mind. Sometimes it's also said that manas is fore-running, citta far-going, and vijnana is birth-relinking activity of mind.

Also, manas is supporting (subsequent) and thinking/contemplating aspect of mind, citta is accumulating and diversity aspect of mind (it's increase with defilements or cease without them), and vijnana is cognizing aspect.

In Yogacara citta is equated with alaya-vijnana (storehouse consciousness), manas with klista-manas (defiled mind), and vijnana with pravritti-vijnana (functioning mind).

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ever seen a buddhist prayer wheel? that's the citta,the little ball at the end of the string. the object itself is the metaphor.

when you still the mind using concentration, and at the same time observe the mind using mindfulness, then you will observe the spinning citta. as you focus on the citta more, you will bring it to rest.

it has no mass, and so it has no inertia. it can spin up to mhz in a fraction of a second, the moment thought arises and is let through by the observer. in this way the spin of the citta can be controlled.

  • 'You' doesn't still the mind/citta & 'you' doesn't observe the citta. 'Manas' stills the mind & 'consciousness (vijñāna)' observes the citta. Regardless, I enjoyed your excellent answer. Kind regards & welcome. – Dhammadhatu Aug 11 '17 at 10:26
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While there have been many attempts to show that these are either the same or different, in my view that is missing the point somewhat. The terms are, generally speaking, synonyms, and their usage overlaps to some degree, but they tend to be used in different contexts:

Viṇṇāṇa is part of the khandhas and āyatanas, and hence pertains to the first noble truth: it is suffering.

Mano is typically used in an active sense of will or volition, closely related to kamma, and hence pertains to the second noble truth, the cause of suffering .

Citta is to be developed and thus pertains to the fourth noble truth. The cessation of all these is, of course, the third noble truth.

https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/citta-mano-vinnana-definitions-and-distinctions/4254/2

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There is a great lack of agreement among scholars in translating. This study tries to seek some clarity between the three terms:

Triune Mind in Buddhism: A Textual Exploration by Suwanda H J Sugunasiri

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    This answer would be great if you could summarize the essential arguments made in the paper. Link-only answers are not preferred on SE. – Anthony Mar 2 '15 at 14:21
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    I'm just waiting for that summary to vote-up. This is a critical question that needs answers with references. – Thiago Mar 3 '15 at 4:53
  • I tried to read the article, and this is super boring article ever, no worth summarizing. Mix of math-like terms like R-Mind, J-Mind, E-Mind, M-Complex with popular analogies like telephone call, CEO, Swift Run, etc. – catpnosis Nov 18 '15 at 16:06
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Citta: The mirror of mind that lacks any qualities of it's own, but provides the canvas for the phenomena of samsara and nirvana (synonymous with the all-ground consciousness in Yogachara, though here being referred to in it's mundane aspect, as it appears to ordinary beings). It is also considered to be the domain where karmic tendencies rest dormant, but with the possibility of manifesting when exposed to an external stimuli that generates grasping and conceptualization (which is the function of manas).

Caitta: The qualities of the mind. The waves on the ocean, the coloring of a gem with a colored cloth beneath it, etc. The basic dispositional sense that the mind is imbued with. For more info see the 51 mental factors.

Vijnana: the basic sense of self-orientation and "I-making" that infuses the experience of reality for unenlightened beings. It is differentiated into six forms given the six classes of phenomena (sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, and ideation). It is the projection of an illusory "I" in reference to these phenomena. The basis of this reference is the citta, which itself has no self-qualities (though it can become anything). This is what the Buddha propounds anatman.

Manas: Conceptual thinking. Can be afflictive or non-afflictive. Vijnana (a basic self-orientation toward reality), is a necessary precondition for the functioning of conventional manas. This is the part of the mind that believes in the solid, unchanging, self-nature of phenomena and conceptualizes about their various inter-relations. Whether there is still conceptualization within enlightenment (with the transcendence of vijnana) is argued about, but the most sensible description is that conceptualization occurs, but those concepts are not experienced as solid and unchanging, but are seen as the play of interdependent phenomena, none of which possess their own self-nature.

With metta.

  • whilst non of the above answers are perfect i can't see why this answer, which does enrich the Q&A, is downvoted, +1. "Whether there is still conceptualization within enlightenment (with the transcendence of vijnana) is argued about", imo, it's THERE-IS, for enlightenment is free from all hindrances, thus one can go back and forward freely, be caught or be free. There is a term for the Buddhas, 遊戲(playing)神通(?)自在(free). – Mishu 米殊 Feb 16 '17 at 5:50

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