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The five precepts are (from wikipedia)

  1. I undertake the training rule to abstain from killing.
  2. I undertake the training rule to abstain from taking what is not given.
  3. I undertake the training rule to avoid sensual misconduct.
  4. I undertake the training rule to abstain from false speech.
  5. I undertake the training rule to abstain from fermented drink that causes heedlessness.

I am very new to Buddhism, but from what I'm understanding right now, Buddha's teachings are very simple. The first 4 rules make sense. They are all forms of practicing detachment.

But the 5th... it's too human. Too specific. I just don't see Buddha teaching it to his disciples.

It's the same as with Ānantarika-karma, where the last crime is creating a schism in the sangha (the community of Buddhist monks and nuns). It's too specific and so Buddhist oriented. Once again, I just don't see Buddha teaching it.

The question is, did Buddha teach the five precepts?

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  • If he didn't teach it, it was probably because it was common sense in the asetic world at the time.
    – Lowbrow
    Sep 8, 2015 at 2:07
  • All Precepts boil down to 'Do No Harm' (including to yourself and your own mindfulness), and they are listed in order of severity. This is also why imbibing alcohol is placed last.
    – Yinxu
    Jul 29, 2016 at 8:43

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The five precepts are mentioned in Dhammika sutta. The main reason for teaching the fifth precept is said to be that intoxication easily instigates people to break other precepts by concealing the seriousness.

"Now I will tell you the layman's duty. Following it a lay-disciple would be virtuous; for it is not possible for one occupied with the household life to realize the complete bhikkhu practice (dhamma).

"He should not kill a living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should he incite another to kill. Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in the world.

"A disciple should avoid taking anything from anywhere knowing it (to belong to another). He should not steal nor incite another to steal. He should completely avoid theft.

"A wise man should avoid unchastity as (he would avoid falling into) a pit of glowing charcoal. If unable to lead a celibate life, he should not go to another's wife.

"Having entered a royal court or a company of people he should not speak lies. He should not speak lies (himself) nor incite others to do so. He should completely avoid falsehood.

"A layman who has chosen to practice this Dhamma should not indulge in the drinking of intoxicants. He should not drink them nor encourage others to do so; realizing that it leads to madness. Through intoxication foolish people perform evil deeds and cause other heedless people to do likewise. He should avoid intoxication, this occasion for demerit, which stupefies the mind, and is the pleasure of foolish people.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/snp/snp.2.14.irel.html

As for creating a schism in the sangha, my understanding is that this is not applicable for laypeople. Only monks are capable of causing a split. But a layperson can be a cause indirectly which isn't a severe offense.

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Thus I have heard...a monk got drunk and pointed his feet at the Buddha (a serious sign of disrespect in the Buddha's culture). At this, the Buddha banned the drinking of alcohol based on the fact that it can cause such serious lapses in mindfulness so as to lead a monk to show an extreme lack of respect.

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  • Can you please give a source
    – Anton
    Sep 8, 2015 at 1:06
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    @Andrey I was able to find this answer again by searching for "salamander".
    – ChrisW
    Sep 8, 2015 at 1:09
  • @Andrey, the source given by ChrisW is basically the story I heard. Unfortunately there is no source given in that source and I don't know where it comes from.
    – Adamokkha
    Sep 8, 2015 at 2:13
  • @Andrey It said that the source is the "origin story" of the Patimokkha rules (i.e. the story which explains the origin of the rule). A longer version of the origin story is on page 360 of this document.
    – ChrisW
    Sep 8, 2015 at 8:22
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This answer says that the fifth precept was added a little later:

Alcohol is frequently absent from lists of prohibited activities, including the famous Pansil, i.e., Five Precepts. There is a fourfold version of pansil called the Four Restraints. As to why this is the case, the answer is that it is because the Buddha did not prohibit alcohol for the first eight years of the sangha. The Buddha only prohibited alcohol when a monk got drunk and passed out, embarassing the sangha.

This comment adds some support for that statement -- for example you can see that the section titled "The Short Section on Virtue" in DN 1 only mentions the first four precepts.

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