Timeline for Nirodha samapatti - cessation of all, or only clinging, perception and feeling?
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| Jul 4, 2021 at 23:33 | history | edited | user8527 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 4, 2021 at 21:17 | comment | added | user8527 | On the treshold of nibbana means, as i see it that it is 'without limits'; greed /anger/delusion s a making of limits. It limits and constricts. With cessation of perception & feeling there are no limits, no limit making, signs are limiting and seeing sighns is seeing something limited to a particular, limited in that sense. The discernment of the cessation is the 3rd truth and a fruition of the path. Towards the end of mn43 there is an explanation of the limits as well. | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 20:21 | comment | added | user8527 | There are, monks, three unskilled ways of thought: thoughts of lust, thoughts of ill-will, thoughts of hurting. And these three unskilled states disappear utterly in him whose heart is well established in the four foundations of mindfulness, or who practices concentration on the signless. accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.080.wlsh.html | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 20:18 | comment | added | user8527 | It is the same with phala attainments, the difference is in what defilements are removed. They are all associated with samadhi based on the nibbananirodhadhatu and it is a cessation of perception & feeling | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 20:09 | comment | added | user8527 | Emptiness, the signless, & the undirected are names for a state of concentration that lies on the threshold of Unbinding. They differ only in how they are approached. According to the commentary, they color one's first apprehension of Unbinding: a meditator who has been focusing on the theme of inconstancy will first apprehend Unbinding as signless; one who has been focusing on the theme of stress will first apprehend it as undirected; one who has been focusing on the theme of not-self will first apprehend it as emptiness. | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 20:05 | comment | added | user8527 | It's a super trance state so to speak, it lasts for a predetermined amount of time | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 13:26 | comment | added | user13375 | Ok, now with Ruben’s edit of my paraphrase I think your answer is affirming that it is to be understood as the state of an Arahant and not a super trance like state?? | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 13:16 | comment | added | user8527 | I added this answer to complement the referenced comments in the link from op. I already explained to my best ability what i thinl the theravada take on this is and don't want repeat everything again to the same questineer. | |
| Jul 4, 2021 at 13:13 | comment | added | user13375 | Hi, I am either confused as to what Ruben’s question is or confused as to your answer, because this does not appear to me to answer the question… do you see my edit to the OP and agree the paraphrase is in accordance with your understanding of the question? | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 23:19 | history | edited | user8527 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 3, 2021 at 23:14 | comment | added | user8527 | I think this should answer your question because if you think that there is a super trance like state then it's certainly sannavedananirodha which is nibbana because that seeing with wisdom destroys taints. I mean the initial attainment of the Buddha, he sat for 7 days, it wasn't jhana rupa or arupa jhana, ppl later called it lokuttarajhana. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 23:12 | history | edited | user8527 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 3, 2021 at 23:04 | history | answered | user8527 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |